In this DIY video, I’ll show how to hang stuff on plaster and lath walls using a molly bolt. When this happens the only real remedy is to remove the plaster and the laths and board out the studs with plasterboard. That rock-hard substance, which was applied to the walls and ceilings of … Because the plaster is thick and hard, it will be difficult to drive in a nail without cracking the wall. Poking holes in plaster walls can leave bare lath flapping and loosens the plaster surrounding the opening. Trowel on the finish coat. This is naturally the easiest type as you can screw directly into it. Forget trying to find the studs using a stud detector, many of them are useless. However, lath and plaster has its downsides. How to Find Studs in Plaster Walls Using the Stud Finder. Most smaller items can be hung pretty securely anywhere on the wall by screwing into the wood lath, but for heavy things that weight more than 10-15 lbs, like large mirrors and TVs, you’ll need to learn how to find studs in a plaster wall. 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Using a small hammer tap the screw to push the plug through the plaster and into the wall itself and stop when the length of screw sticking out equals the length of the wall plug. How should I fix the stripped hole in the plasterboard? There are also houses that used wire mesh as backing for the plaster. Be sure to use one that's long enough to get behind the plaster and lath. Applying plaster over thin strips of wood, called lath became the practice in more modern wood-frame houses. The more expensive ones allow you to adjust the position of the TV. You'll find it virtually impossible to make a firm fixing into lath and plaster so put your screws into the wooden studs which run floor to ceiling at around 14 inch intervals for the length … But I'd drill first with a thin bit, and if I happened to hit stud, I'd use a wood screw. After wetting the lath and surrounding plaster, spread a rough coat of compound into the hole. That rock-hard substance, which was applied to the walls and ceilings of … Fixing into a more modern stud wall with plasterboard is much the same – don't try to fix anything other  than “blu-tak” onto the plasterboard – instead fix through that and into the studs. Fixing to Plasterboard Walls – How to Use Plasterboard Fixings. But it's … They come in two parts, one which is screwed to the wall and the other mounts to the screw holes on the back of the TV. Although walls may have a smooth surface, some walls deceptively hide an inconsistent combination of wood (lath) and plaster, with deep and shallow levels of density among the plaster, lath and stud. Place another bit of tape below the hole. Sign up to our newsletter for daily updates and breaking news. Plaster is often thicker than this. This is unusual nowadays, but some older houses have partition walls made of boarding. Again, see the picture above. These lath and plaster stud walls will normally only be found on 'internal' walls between rooms, hallways  or stairs. I finally managed to find an anchor that works in lath and plaster -- it's called a toggle bolt or molly! Since these tend to be made straight from zinc, they can easily break during insertion so it is important to be aware of that. If not, re-drill with proper bit, and toggle bolt. Mark the position of the studs across your wall with  a feint pencil mark. Lath and plaster For division walls that carry no load, this is one of the most common types. If you hit lath, you can add your screw directly into the wall. Plastering is considered as an art form and not all contractors can correctly do this task, that is why those who can do so do not come cheap. 4. Homeowners and contractors covered masonry walls with a cement-based material to hide the structure. You can usually tell when you hit the lath because the screw will grab better. explains more about how we use your data, and your rights. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by winterdiy, Jan 6, 2017. winterdiy Member. The top two holes are stripped where the screw will spin freely. Fire-rated, or Type-X, drywall is 5/8-inch thick. You simply drill a hole into the wall with the anchor itself, then insert the screw into the anchor. You only need to drill through the top coat of the plaster. They should be on 16 inch centers from there. For lighter items, simply screwing into the plaster with a 1 1/4” drywall screw is usually enough to get the job done. Pre drill the holes using a drill bit that is only 1/2 the diameter of the intended screw. Plaster over wood lathe has a wood strips as backing, while plaster over rock lathe has an early version of gypsum board (drywall) as backing for the plaster. Or use thick adhesive to glue it to the back of the lath and plaster. Just drill a pilot hole before screwing in screw. Once the lower screw and bracket were in place, I tightened this top screw. Choose a drill bit slightly smaller than the screw intended for the hole, when applicable. When you subscribe we will use the information you provide to send you these newsletters. Once you know that, and you have your walls laid out, just start drilling holes with a small bit through the plaster and lath until you find a joist. Turn the screw to "mushroom" the slotted sleeve against the back wall surface. The hardened plaster will hold the metal lath in place. To fix firmly drill a hole with a masonary bit (5.5mm approx) and insert a rawl plug making sure that the rawl plug is into the brick not just the plaster!. It's a plastic version of the toggle bolt. This creates a horizontal working surface that allows the plaster to bind to it to give your walls a lasting surface. Ripe off a slightly longer strip of painters tape and fold it in … Depending on size, sleeves will take #4, #6 or #8 screws. Pointed mollys can be tapped into place with a hammer. The other side of this lath and plaster wall has been previously renovated or else you would see the laths and the plaster on the inside. The The cavity between them is only about 3", if I remember correctly. Make sure to remove the tape once it is on the wall. Nonpointed versions require an installation hole, and work well in old plaster-and-lath walls. By surrounding the area with plaster washers, you can stabilize the plaster so that it doesn’t sag any further. Then fix your screw into … Place the tip of the bit against the center of the masking tape "X." Below is a lightly edited transciption of the audio track. From here you will lightly tape in the molly bolt. Then you can carefully fold up your little tape shelf to collect all the plaster dust and simply throw it away. This is a picture of a lath & plaster ceiling. The only way to fasten an heavy object such as shelving or a sink to a lath and plaster wall is to screw directly into the studs (the studs are the upright lengths of wood), or you could remove a section of the lath and plaster and fix noggins in between the studs and then plasterboard the area and fasten to the noggins. I believe that those two screws do not touch the lath board that is behind the plaster. Homeowners and contractors covered masonry walls with a cement-based material to hide the structure. Then you will use a screwdriver to tighten the molly bolt, securing it. Force base coat into the lath. You have to go slow. If you can hang your heavy object in line with a stud and screw a long screw directly into the stud, that's always the best option. Stairway handrails are a safety feature, and you don't want one to pull out of the wall when someone stumbles on a stair and grabs the railing to catch themselves. Hi. We moved into a house built in 1906, so many of the walls are still lath and plaster. This is what a lath and plaster wall will look like with the plaster and the laths removed. You need to ideally find the studs. These are ideal for plaster walls as sometimes it can be hard to know what the thickness of plaster walls are. Drive the screw into the wall where you drove the pilot hole. Fixing to plasterboard walls, and how to use plasterboard fixings. DIY Dave: How to put up brackets and a shelf. Hi. If the anchor … Once the lower screw and bracket were in place, I tightened this top screw. Ideally, we would like to mount a TV onto a wall, but I’ve had little luck with YouTube tutorials, as most are just videos of either mounting on drywall or fixing lath and plaster. Instead, use plaster anchors made of metal like a molly bolt or a toggle bolt. However fixing into a wall becomes more interesting when you have lath and plaster. Fixing to lath & Plaster is often difficult as the wall does not have much strength at all where the laths and plaster are! As touched on before, if it's lath & plaster it's (typically) a stud wall, so unlikely to be brick. Drill a pilot hole before hammering larger nails into plaster. See the picture at the top. (do not use nails unless you are positive you are nailing into a stud) The predrilling in in hopes of penetrating the lath behind the plaster and not missing and going into the space between the lath strips. Lath and plaster is a process used to finish interior walls and ceiling. Turn the screw to "mushroom" the slotted sleeve against the back wall surface. Using your drill bit, drill a clean and straight hole into the wall, through the plaster and lath. 7. Choose a drill bit slightly smaller than the screw intended for the hole, when applicable. You'll know the stud when your knock sounds kind of, 'not hollow'. When drilling into plaster, you'll need to use a masonry bit. The main thinking behind finding the studs in this type of walling is that we need to fix our bracket or what-have-you into the stud rather than the hollow lath and plaster part of the wall. The only way to fasten an heavy object such as shelving or a sink to a lath and plaster wall is to screw directly into the studs (the studs are the upright lengths of wood), or you could remove a section of the lath and plaster and fix noggins in between the studs and then plasterboard … When the coat has set, unwind the wire, remove the pencil, and push the wire into the wall cavity. Below is a lightly edited transciption of the audio track. Get a wall mount bracket rated for your TV; they cost between $40 and $140. To install: Seat the round flange flush with the wall surface by tapping the screwhead. After wetting the lath and surrounding plaster, spread a rough coat of compound into the hole. A handrail needs to support a 200 lb load in all directions. I tried the plastic insert with wings like this. When drilling into plaster, you'll need to use a masonry bit. Hanging stuff on plaster walls can be challenging. If You Hit Lath: Step 3: Add Screw. This might be not so crucial hanging a picture; yet, just driving the long nail or a screw into the plaster isn’t enough for a bookshelf or an LCD TV. Even more so if you live in an old house with plaster and lath walls. Removing the lath and plaster wall without checking if it is a load-bearing wall or not, which can put your safety at risk Hiring the cheapest contractor who claims to know how to plaster walls. You thread the drywall screw through a plaster washer and then drive it through the plaster and into the ceiling joists, wall studs, or wood lath. You drill a hole, fold up the plastic piece, and push it into the hole. This method of construction has not been used for some time now, but is often found in older houses. 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