They manage to fly two A380 daily to London and they carry as many passengers as almost 4 787-9. Cairns can definitely take 747s. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. It would be nice if qantas think about using the 787 to fly melbourne to manila direct. Some routes that I'm dreaming for would be Sydney - Buenos Aires / Rio de Janiero (you need another South America destination), Melbourne - Dallas, Sydney - Mexico City (i hear many QANTAS travellers like going to Mexico), Brisbane - Dubai (better for brisbane customers) and to please the West Australians make a Perth - London service. SYD/MNL is an extremely low yield route. Routesonline provides an update on the operations of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, looking at the top airlines and routes by capacity, as well as the... Read more. 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"I'd suggest the Qantas graphic is purely for example of range! Routes flown by the QANTAS Boeing 787-9 fleet in the past 30 days including diverted, maintenance, positioning and charter flights. Noel. Sydney 1st. I've flown from Cairns to Hong Kong on Cathay on a 747 before and that was almost 20 years ago.I don't know about OOL but maybe it can.Cairns is further away than SYD so that is why SYD would be preferable than CRN. Sydney+1 and Vancouver+1. The Qantas website has the … Price is most important as we head into next recession(we had to have). Can someone please explain to why you are so obsessed with Qantas flying to Europe? David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis. Since the 8 newer A332s will be part time international it should help to achieve this. 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I think flying out of Perth is a really good idea. In order to get a 3rd port, or more then 3000 seats/week for each side, the agreement needs to change. Do Perth! Each Qantas Boeing 787-9 will carry around 250 passengers in business class, premium economy and economy compared to an average 360 on the Red Roo’s Boeing 747s. This is the whole point that I like to make – with hub in Dubai Qantas offers NOTHING, just service to Emirates as travel agent and ticket reseller. but haven't typed it in.....unless that could be Doha? Or what about India then on to mainland Europe? Little old Perth has no hope of offering anything extra. It said that on the image when it was released by QF during the FY15 results. Doesn't that mean the 787-9s will replace 4 B747s. You’ll find the 787-9’s premium economy seats (Qantas’ best) on these routes: Los Angeles (LAX) – Brisbane (BNE) Los Angeles (LAX) – Melbourne (MEL) on QF 96 San Francisco (SFO) – Melbourne … The first tranche of Dreamliners will replace five Boeing 747s, although this doesn’t mean they will all slot straight into the jumbo’s footprints. any new routes as joyce says will be subject to the network and market forces at the time. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I doubt they will utilise all 50 options, but they will take in 20-35 aircraft for international routes. Just NOT going to happen - not going to put themselves in a position where Y fares are another 20% more than the competition. Didn’t receive an activation email? These flights are repositioning flights back to Sydney after Qantas operates another round of repatriation flights into Darwin. True, although it isn't always obvious.It blew my mind when I saw that Sydney was further from Singapore than Melbourne and it was faster to fly to Melbourne than Sydney from Hong Kong.Amazing world sometimes. It’s a good two years until the first Qantas Boeing 787-9 makes its inaugural flight towards the tail end of 2017, but which routes will be graced by the Dreamliner? Flights operated by QANTAS Boeing 787-9 aircraft in the past 30 days including maintenance, positioning, delivery and diverted flights. It would depend on when a flight needs to devert from BNE. PE could be 8 across 2-4-2 & Y could be 2-4-3. Deal with it!! There is also an argument that the same leg could continue on to a European capital, especially Frankfurt, as part of the QF/EK network offering. Its hard to take this too seriously. 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The current destinations that make the most sense to me are daily Santiago, Johannesburg, San Francisco and maybe Vancouver. Australia’s flag carrier Qantas is to open routes from Brisbane to Chicago and San Francisco before the end of April 2020. All other international routes, other then LHR, uses 2 aircraft per route for daily frequency. Qantas says 87% of flyers willing to take COVID vaccine if required, Hilton Honors 2021 status match unlocks fast-track to Gold, Diamond, How to get a free upgrade to Emirates premium economy, Virgin Australia reopens Perth, Gold Coast lounges, 5 reasons you shouldn't bin your boarding passes, What to do when an airline cancels your flight, New ways for airlines to win your business. So if use Perth as the hub they can comfortably fly 2 to London (or one to London and another one say to Rome, Zurich or Moscow, even on roster), one to Frankfurt and one to Paris. AC is in the process of changing Melbourne to Brisbane. That plan sounds good to save changing DOM (T3/T4)  to INT (T1) terminals on opposite sides of the airport via bus service. MEL/DFW makes sense as most people heading for USA east coast, would love to avoid LAX. Currently aircraft sits at LAX for around 17.5 hours. For much of most flights to BNE, CNS would be closer then SYD. The Qantas Dreamliner is an exciting new addition to the Qantas fleet. The most important concept for QANTAS to grasp,now ,  is that there must be that  POINT OF  DIFFERENCE in economy seating for Long Haul Routes . Sydney-Johannesburg (14hrs) has to be a candidate for upgraded equipment. With hub in Perth, smaller aircrafts and more Europe destinations Qantas may became company that really fly Europe. Qantas 787-9 Routes: Melbourne (MEL) - (LAX) Los Angeles (15 December 2017) Perth (PER) - (LHR) London (March 2018) Qantas 787-9 Details: Fleet Size: 0 Then, flights from Europe tracking back to Perth stop in … r u looking at seat width at bum or shoulder ? With the A380s grounded, the airline's Kangaroo Route from Sydney to London via Singapore will now be handed over to a Boeing 787. Find out more about the Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner Watch a time-lapse video of the Dreamliner being assembled at the Boeing factory in Seattle Opens external site in a new window Seat maps It is far from value for money. Already have an Executive Traveller account? Last Update: 27 November 2020 ** With the ongoing Covid-19 crisis, many routes … All the transpac routes require 2 aircraft to operate on a daily frequency. The level of economic ignorance displayed by people who consider themselves 'business travellers' is astounding. Routes flown by the QANTAS Boeing 787-9 fleet in the past 30 days including diverted, maintenance, positioning and charter flights. I believe it has sufficient ETOPS, but hte problem is that CASA hasn't approved AU carriers for more than 180 ETOPS, But Qantas has two years to work on this issue before the 789 arrives. no can't agree. Qantas is operating the new Perth-London service with the 787-9 Dreamliner. A hub from the eastern states into Africa and maybe India, yes. The 787-9s can't do the western parts of Europe from Perth. Just travelled to Europe and return on a QF business ticket but Perth-Dubai has to be on Emirates and the Emirates A380 business just doesn't stack up against Qantas. This website uses cookies to enable certain functions. I would love to see a SYD-PEK route and a double daily HKG! Plus I think it could help add some tourism here too. Difference between 8 & 9 across is a maximum of 1.9 inches or 4.8cm in seat width, altho b careful, as not all measurments are the same, eg. As borders come down, where can you travel across Australia? With increasing capacity to Japan, it could be that most of the growth in pax is in Y. I'll book a 10 hour overnight flight in PE. Log in below. This is only enhanced by the Dreamliners boasting greater range than the Boeing 747s. + don't have to go daily on a thin route. I am not interested to buy Qantas ticket and fly Emirates – if I like Emirates, I can buy directly from them and it is usually even cheaper. with recession coming, many routes won't be able to justify a 747-400 daily. IMHO it is far better that be travel agent for Emirates. Come on, Qantas! For MEL, we know that Avalon can accept large planes because after all, it has been the 747 service centre for the past 30 years or so. If you have not received the activation email, simply enter your email address below, then click 'Submit'. Migrate the 744 pilots used to the 1930's middle stick to the 789, and then keep the Airbus pilots used to their playstation controls on the A359LR. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. Secondly, as busines travellers, you should know that frequency is important. Hi Guest, join in the discussion on Qantas Boeing 787-9 routes: Where will Qantas fly its new Dreamliners? Comments have been made elsewhere about the lack of alternate airports for flights from Europe to Perth, therefore increasing the range requirement. Qantas' first regular 787 services are a year away, but the airline is already announcing the initial routes so it can increase its proposition in deeply significant markets (and also begin preparations while avoiding possible media leaks). For older operations please see Jet Tracker. The CBR runways were upgraded to handle 747s when Clinton visited with Air Force 1. Qantas has received its first Boeing 787 Dreamliner plane, the cutting-edge aircraft it will use next year to start flying the world's first non-stop route between Australia and London. It cost 55,000 Alaska miles, which I considered to be a fair price for a product as good as QANTAS … I think you'll find that's actually a Qantas graphic. Maintenance stops of 5 days or greater and all maintenance stops at outside bases. Firstly, I want to commend you on this fantastic website. Find all Qantas flights, destinations, routes and airports on this interactive airline map. What is really needed is a daily 787-9 to Dubai, to give WA/SA customers who want to fly QF metal the same advantages that everyone else gets. seems pretty likely that these birds will go straight onto the routes of the aircraft they replace (namely the 747s) as opposed to immediately opening up new routes. All the QF routes to Asia, other then SYD-HND, use 1 aircraft for a daily return frequency. Anyway, if you want the chance to try Qantas’ new business class without having to even leave Australia, @airlineroute notes that Qantas has scheduled some domestic 787 flights (within Australia) for before the plane flies internationally.It’s normal for airlines to run domestic routes … Isn't SYD to JNB ETOPS restricted? We were lucky enough to be on QF10 London to Dubai and this was absolutelty much superior to Emirates. Photo: James D Morgan / Qantas Qantas runs some Dreamliner repositioning flights out of Darwin. QANTAS 787-9 premium economy would’ve been a lot more fun if I didn’t have to wait so long for it. “It’s got better range, can operate to routes the 747 can’t with full payload, it is a fantastic replacement aircraft with less risk associated with trying to fill up a smaller aircraft,” Joyce said. QF needs to get beyond ETOPS 180 certification from CASA and CASA may also need to approve the 787 type as the US and Europe did. I'm assuming you are taking some of the michael in suggesting international flights orginate in Hobart? We’ll send you an email containing the activation link. I definitely will look forward to resume using QF to fly Europe because since they stop use Singapore I flying with someone else via Asia. IMHO it does not make much sense to keep both. below, then click 'Submit'. Once the first eight Dreamliners have been delivered, Qantas will have three more than the five jumbo jets being put out to pasture. Read more: Qantas reveals Boeing 787 config. The arrival of the 787-9s should coincide only around 18 months before the new airport link should open, allowing the seamless connectivity between the domestic and international terminals. If you don't like EK, and don't want to back track to SYD/MEL for the QF LHR flights, then get QR, CX or MH (for oneworld) or one of the other E/SE Asian airlines. There are plenty lonely enough airports that can be approached from ocean. Please reintroduce Singapore to Europe flights, we don't like Dubai AJ. Suggest Qantas may pull out of MNL all together. This, coupled with the requirement of an extra set of crew simply make it  a non-starter. Also Qantas could do, BNE/YVR & MEL/YVR nonstop to compete with AC. The 789 might have the legs, but does it have sufficient ETOPS? Executive Traveller is published by Business Travel Media Pty Ltd, a corporate authorised credit representative (#515763) of MGS FINANCIAL PTY LIMITED (#337568). The +1s are currently Melbourne and Toronto. Qantas Fleet Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner Details and Pictures.On current fleet, Qantas operates 8 brand new wide-body long-haul aircraft Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner. Perth needs to reintroduce QANTAS planes - can't wait until 2017-Do it now! European routes tend to use 3 aircraft per route. Even so, Joyce is keenly aware of the challenges in trying to see two years into the future through a cloudy crystal ball. Qantas routes and airport map Last updated on: 01-09-2021. "Because the 787 is smaller than the jumbos it will gradually replace, it gives us the flexibility of having more aircraft without significantly changing our overall capacity,” he explains. Qantas gains and offers a massive network into Europe, Africa, ME and eastern seaboard of US using the EK hub. Qantas 787-9 Dreamliner First Routes Nobody has mentioned flights out of ADELAIDE, DARWIN and HOBART to Asian destinations, New Zealand and America. All PR. This could help boost some services which operate only a handful of days every week to the daily schedule which business travellers value. QF's A330-300s have about the same number of Y seats as the 747s, so the big difference is about half the J seats and no PE. 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